Jun 27, 2009
Fear of Punishment
Darin, Kim and Aimee join Stacey Robbins for a conversation about fearing God’s punishment and how it affects our daily decisions. Learning to live in the wild is sometimes 50% living and exploring, and 50% healing, re-training and detoxing from a harmful past. This is a great discussion, full of passion and heart. Giving up the “fear card” is like having a limb amputated for some of us. You’ll remember Stacey from other shows. She is also the one singing the song, “You Know Me” at the opening of the “Into the Wild Midweek” shows!
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"And this is the condemnation that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light lest his deeds be exposed. But he who does the truth, comes to the light that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God." I'd say Fear keeps us from the light. In and of itself, fear is its own condemnation. it keeps us from knowing God. In the last day, it is not God who condemns us, but our own fear, preventing us from knowing God in the light.
I'll come next week only if the "uu-mau-mau" song is going to bee sang again. :) Great podcast.
David said: In the last day, it is not God who condemns us, but our own fear, preventing us from knowing God in the light. yisraela says: I think you have something there David ! I think our view of who He is, is critical !! Do I see Him as a loving Papa? Or The Punisher? Matthew 25:14-30 'Master,' he said, 'I knew that you are a hard man, harvesting where you have not sown and gathering where you have not scattered seed. 25So I was afraid and went out and hid your talent in the ground. See, here is what belongs to you.'
My 4 year old started blaming me for the things that happen in her life that had nothing to do with me, like when she runs into the table, and yells at me for putting the table in her way, or she didn't put her crayons away and then it's my fault that her sister broke them all. Consequence has nothing to do with God. But He is loving and sympathic when I "run into the table because I wasn't watching where I was going".
The first time I have ever heard Darin get out-talked on his own podcast. Way to go girls!
That's Right Fran! We are planning a take-over! lol
Yes, Fran - I think Darin planned it that way since he was pretty tired. :-) Hey, you put three girls in a room on the subject of fear and it's like putting a match to a stick of dynamite. It's an epidemic and trusting love is the antidote. The journey for me is to come to Jesus with my belief and my unbelief...still walking that journey....
This is so crazy. I appreciate you guys so much. You'll probably never meet me, I am a million internet cables away from you in Europe, but I feel so close to your hearts... It's as if I was in the room with you. Some years ago it took weeks for a letter to get America from here. These days I know so important things about the podcast guys and the commenting guys just a few seconds after you felt them.... It's amazing. You all are amazing.
“When you do not live in fear anymore in your life, that is the ultimate freedom, that is the ultimate open pasture, and that scares the hell out of us. “ BINGO, YOU NAILED IT! And the fear of hell will be in you until you rest in the freedom of grace and then and only then will “hell” be literally driven/scared out of you.
Loved it. I can relate. I too picked people in my life who would punish me. That was my perception of God also. I think we always "project" our human emotions on God in most everything. Our "good and evil" is what we define him with. We become scared and pick up fig leaves and become "godlike" as if we COULD define him with those emotions. I have heard this many times in my heart "who told you were naked?" God didn't condemn them but gave them the cause and effect of those "godlike" adventures of projecting thier human emotions on him/her. It's the same as always calling him..him. Defining him by gender. He is God. For me this is what "be still" means, he cannot be defined, he just loves you and test everything against this love. When I "got" this my eternity began that day.
Thank you for that Stephanie! I feel the same!
Please tell your friend who is having blackouts to look into checking her electrolytes. My mother -who is a senior - had been having blackouts for the last ten years. She had many tests on her heart etc. Finally she found out she had a simple electrolyte imbalance. She now adds a packet to her water in the morning. the most common cause for blackouts among seniors is an imbalance of electrolytes.
I will definately do that! thanks Laura ;)