Fellowship From the Inside Out
Darin and Robert talk about what it really takes to KNOW someones heart. There is a level of intimacy that goes beyond small talk and inside jokes. It’s deeper than knowing someones favorite color or what music they like. Knowing God’s heart is not about reading Bible verses and taking notes during a sermon. He’s not satisfied with studying “about” Him. He created us for a deeper connection. He created us to live from the inside out in our relationship with Him. This only is possible if we experience the same hurts and sorrows that He has experienced. Seeing the world from His perspective takes more than memorization. The great thing about all this is that this level of intimacy that He wants with us, is something that He brings about in the course of our lives. It’s not something we can conjure up by trying harder. All we have to do is live life and trust Him.
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Thanks for being a fly on the wall; I just had a conversation with another believer 2 days ago about this subject of the fellowship of suffering......... Thanks for being who Christ made you to be.
I think about the relationships I have that last through the years, even when we've lost touch for a time, and I realize that those relationships are the ones that we truly shared in each other's suffering. It stands to reason that you are going to be there for the good times because (well, I don't know about you, but it's true for me) I'm all about the good times. Those are the easy ones! The good times are not when you don't have an answer for someone but you just sit there and hold their hand or cry with them or burn someone in effigy (like you haven't done it, at least figuratively!) Those are the times where your soul touches, were you are completely bared, all the walls have come down and you show your essence to someone and they love you in spite of all the ugliness you see in yourself. Heck, they even like you because they actually get to know you, the real you. I've been learning a lot of these lessons about how God must feel recently, too. What is up with that?
Typo:" Knowing God’s heart is NOT about reading Bible verses and taking notes during a sermon." This is so where I have been.... and actually all my life, but these last few years, now I actually know it. It's sort of like sharing communion to share these realities with others here. Thanks so much.
very timely ... today we have some close friends who just lost their 18 yr old son in a river accident. It was good to hear these reminders about God and life as we mourn with our friends.
As for the guy who disliked you without meeting you Darin, that's his loss. That is a very thought provoking comment, that when you don't like someone you don't really know them. It is easier to just dismiss someone as a jerk sometimes. I have found that shallow relationship usually ends up being far more draining than real relationship. Great talk guys.
Thanks so much for this podcast. It's so easy to get lost in self pity when in the midst of suffering. . . trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong . . . why I can't seem to do better at trusting and knowing God's love (so I can then be relieved of my suffering!) So very easy to believe the lies of the enemy. Fellowship of suffering. Much to ponder.
This put a whole new light on my sorrow with my kids !!! THANKS !
Intense topic, you guys! Wow. It's so easy to get into the mindset of, "but God wants me happy, doesn't He?" And it's not true. He is more concerned with the condition of my heart then He is with my happiness. The picture, Darin, you painted with your daughter was really powerful. How because of walking through that with your sweet Sydney, you have an even great understanding of God's heart. I don't know if He causes these things to happen, or if "life" happens, and then He uses them... totally not clear on that, but I love that He walks through everything with us, and uses it to bring us into great freedom and understanding.