Nov 19, 2011
Preferring Lies Over Truth
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Once again, great discussion. Poor Robert. Dude you are in a serious training ground...fairy, man I was laughing so hard. Reminds me of my Navy days. We seriously razzed each other all of the time.
We live in a very deceptive world. The news, reality TV is anything but reality, movies, TV... all of it is mostly lies. Hollywood is called tinsel town for a reason...it is all fake. But somehow people act like they believe what they hear or see from the movie industry.
Sadly the church system seems to be OK with some lies. There is a lot of Political Correctness in church as well. It is not OK to challenge the lies because you will be sat down. I really don't believe churches are lying, but are not telling the truth about some things. There is a difference. Most religions don't think they are purposely deceiving people, unless they are a cash scam cult. They believe they are the truth. This includes denominations as well. Mormons boast they are the only true church, as well as others.
Im with you d now and forever. Suspended in Love David Joseph Brncik
I've been around truth-based churches for decades. They talk it, but won't walk it. It's just the basis of their club. You have to like our particular flavor of truth to belong. Beliefs are one of those things people can use to get their sense of belonging. And, feel good about themselves. The 2 work together as a flesh-based identity. If you try to expose the lie, you are killing their identity. Once while I was teaching in a non-podium setting, I actually had a man sit in front me waving his arms and bobbing back and forth trying to distract me. The quailty of teaching I had been sharing in this group was unintentionally dethroning him as "The Teacher." People fight to the death to preserve their false identity. But I also think it is an existential question. How in the world am I going to survive if you expose my way of "knowing", my way of being in this world, as weak and beggarly? Going down that road strips you of everything! It's the price too high for many.
I'll disagree on one point. I DO believe there needs to be a correct theology. As loving as a person is, if he is preaching corrupt theology, lives are still destroyed. But then again, if you TRULY love people, I believe that theology will be correct and true to form of love. Recently I have seen before my eyes some very destructive theology in the name of love.
Darin I really enjoyed this podcast. I was just talking with a friend this past weekend about how it's not really about what we believe theologically. What really matters is if you have grace and love in your heart and genuinely love people. Because that really IS the ultimate guide. So often we make the theology/beliefs the guide, but it's not supposed to be that way.
Anyways man, great podcast. Love you guys!
What's crazy is I am hearing some people preach what I have heard you preach all these years, Darin, and I am thinking to myself GREAT! But then there is a twist and some deception thrown in to ruin the batch. And of course, I decided that I just don't like the lies anymore so I keep with the faith God has given me.
I guess today is a day of getting "in-your-face" honesty. You guys are right you know, dishonesty creeps in when we are bored or rather - acting on the dishonesty. Yet I am also reminded of that old Billy Joel song - "Honesty is such a lonely word". That remains the greatest challenge of making the journey of the unchurched - not slipping back into shallow, task-loriented church relationships just because of one thing - boredom.