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Re: Counting Our Feelings

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:14 pm
by AidaC
Santosj wrote:Imagine not trusting anything you feel. That is just totally wrong. But many of us were there. Or always trying to find the will of God input lives. As if we can be out of his will. Silly things I believed in the past.
When I look back at some of the things I used to believe, I wonder how I could have been so naive. Of course, in the institution, we were taught not to question so I put my brain on hold and left it in the parking lot with my car. :lol:

Welcome to our forum, Santos. We're looking forward to getting to know you.

Re: Counting Our Feelings

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:44 pm
by Jac
I always struggled with the "finding the will of God" thing. It seemed to me that I was really only doing what I thought was best, however right or wrong that turned out to be. I was always afraid I was just doing my will and not God's. Yet I could not understand why if God wanted us to discern His will why did He make it so elusive? The words of a song that say "this is never going to go our way if I'm going to have to guess what's on your mind" express it pretty well for me. Now I believe that He wants us to use the brain he gave us and be sure to act in love and whatever we decide make the best of it. Of course we stuff up at times but that is part of the journey.

Re: Counting Our Feelings

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:12 pm
by Jac
I am not sure about following my feelings really after thinking more about it. My feelings are very unreliable. I suffer from severe depression and at times if I trusted my feelings i would probably not be here! (I am reluctant to share this with many people as I think they then write me off as a neurotic and switch off to anything else I have to say. But I trust you folk).
I am more able to cope with reason as the basis for my beliefs and actions and not too much input from feelings. I know it is a bit like trying to get around with one leg because without counting feelings thinking can be a bit sort of out of balance. But it is the best I can do.
(A couple of years ago I got all upset on this forum because of feelings running away with me. When I look back now in the light of reason I know it was nothing to be so stirred up about.)
I know feelings can be positive but mine tend not to be.

Re: Counting Our Feelings

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:38 am
by Noblemen
Jac wrote:I am not sure about following my feelings really after thinking more about it. My feelings are very unreliable. I suffer from severe depression and at times if I trusted my feelings i would probably not be here! (I am reluctant to share this with many people as I think they then write me off as a neurotic and switch off to anything else I have to say. But I trust you folk).
I am more able to cope with reason as the basis for my beliefs and actions and not too much input from feelings. I know it is a bit like trying to get around with one leg because without counting feelings thinking can be a bit sort of out of balance. But it is the best I can do.
(A couple of years ago I got all upset on this forum because of feelings running away with me. When I look back now in the light of reason I know it was nothing to be so stirred up about.)
I know feelings can be positive but mine tend not to be.
Hi Jac, I'm so glad for you that u feel safe here to share your feelings. The battle is real and runs rampant (sp) at times.
Do you live in the States just wondering no other reason and you don't have to answer if you don't want to. Take care dear friend

Re: Counting Our Feelings

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:10 pm
by Jac
Thanks Nobleman. I appreciate your reply. I actually live in Australia. The religion problem is very widespread!
We had a holiday yesterday for "Australia Day" which commemorates when the first fleet landed on our shores. However for our dear Aboriginal people it is invasion day when the "white man came with his bible and his guns". Aboriginal people were murdered in the name of religion as they were just seen as savages to be converted or justifiably wiped out.

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:05 am
by ianstephenson
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Re: Counting Our Feelings

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:23 am
by teresap
Hi Jac,
I've suffered from depression but thankfully it hasn't been as bad for the last 5 years or so . . but I can really relate to what you say. It makes me laugh when people speak about free will, they should suffer from depression or any form of mental illness to realise how little "free will" we have. Having said that though you and I are still here and I'm sure that God has his hand in our lives in ways we will only appreciate when we can see all things clearly. I don't know about you but I sometimes wonder if the fact that I feel so strongly about things is the thing that keeps me on an even keel, I react very strongly to things I see as unjust or unfair but I've come to accept that as part of me and nothing to hide away from.
Love and hugs Jac xx

Re: Counting Our Feelings

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:59 pm
by radio roswell
I see feelings now as an indicator of a deeper issue of not being true to myself. When I begin to move out from an unconditional to conditional love approach to those in my life including myself.They warn me of this. I'm thankful for them.

The last few years have been spent with much purging of false beliefs and ideas and in return a much greater peace about life. Oh sure the challenges are still there but I no longer feel the need to be liked or validated by others in my endeavors. This is incredibly freeing and a unfamiliar territory never known of such awkwardness yet exciting and it is only beginning the healing process of wholeness.

Re: Counting Our Feelings

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:00 pm
by Jac
[quote="teresap")
I've suffered from depression but thankfully it hasn't been as bad for the last 5 years or so . . but I can really relate to what you say. It makes me laugh when people speak about free will, they should suffer from depression or any form of mental illness to realise how little "free will" we have. Having said that though you and I are still here and I'm sure that God has his hand in our lives in ways we will only appreciate when we can see all things clearly. I don't know about you but I sometimes wonder if the fact that I feel so strongly about things is the thing that keeps me on an even keel, I react very strongly to things I see as unjust or unfair but I've come to accept that as part of me and nothing to hide away from.
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Hi Teresa
Thanks for sharing your experience Teresa. I see you can really identify with where I am at (and have been).
I struggle with knowing when I can and should use self help strategies to control my symptoms and when I need to seek medical intervention. Sometimes I find I am just not well enough to do what I need to do to feel well! (Like trying to heal a broken leg by just walking on it.) It is then that I can least trust my feelings.
I like what you said too about how you accept reacting strongly to things that you see as unjust or unfair as part of you and nothing to hide away from. I still struggle with knowing what is my illness talking and what is just part of who I am. I am getting there (but I am still not sure where "there" is).
Love and hugs to you too.